1/2: SQUELCH KOMMANDO [SQK] vs Team ViKiNGS [ViKi]

12.03.2017 17:00 CET
Date Team Points Description
13.03.17 - 22:55 CET SQK 1.00 Not uploaded replays within 24 hours after the match
For player - TGW
Overall for match - Team SQK Overall for match - Team ViKi
1.00 0
ShaDai
(W3A: machiavelli)
2:1
HunteR
(W3A: HunterPer.)
0:2
Worker
(W3A: b2w.Worker)
TGW
(W3A: thegreatwall)
2:1
eQuAleX
(W3A: SunnySunday)
0:2
Anima
(W3A: Anima.)
DV
(W3A: ehrmantraut)
TGW
(W3A: thegreatwall)
0:0
KODOS
(W3A: KODOS_FORSAKEN)
FOALS
(W3A: WEAREFOALS)

Map Pool 1x1

AZ AI DI EI LR NI SV TS TM

Map Pool 2x2

AV BB BN CG GS LT TWG TR TM
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#14
[uMaD] ena1337

ggs wp thx 4 manner, ty

#13
SweeT

gg wp, thx

#12
DV

ggs wp
gl in final

#11
[ViKi] OA

meet channel clan viki cya soon GL HF

#10
[uMaD] ena1337

@ #8: We will figure out the hostbot solution on Sunday once the lineups are released. Not now. I will consult with QuberTe.

#9
[SQK] ag3nt

#7 my numbers are fantasy ofc, it's just an example.

#8
DV

Since me and tgw are having 130 on fra while Hunter have 180 there im just saying we wont even try other bots for us. We tried it 2 weeks ago, ask Quberte. We played fra for TGW vs Hunter.
For 2v2 its obvious it will be FRA.

#7
[uMaD] ena1337

@#6: Your numbers are sheer phantasy. And you ignore important facts.

In our recent clanwar vs Dx, the facts are as such:
WEAREFOALS was unable to play on EU bots due to extremely high ping (~250ms or higher). We delayed the 2on2 and eventually agreed on playing on JPN (NOT on EU).

Here are the real numbers of our last clanwar vs Dx:

JPN bot:
Foals 221ms
Kodo 177ms
______________
Viki 398ms

Select 126ms
Sheik 84ms
______________
Dx JPN 210ms

Difference JPN = 188ms

_______________________________________

Now see the pings on QBC2 (which is in Canada, not USA):

Foals 120ms
Kodo 20ms
_________
Viki 140ms

Select 120ms
Sheik 180ms
____________
Dx 300ms

difference QBC2 = 160

___________________

==> QBC2 Difference < JPN Difference

QBC2 would have been the more fair choice. Despite that fact, I offered a compromise of using QBC2 on one game and JPN on the other game. Though you guys apparently do not comprehend the concept of finding a fair consent, but want to force EU bots vs Peruvian, Korean and American players. That's of course nonsense.

Your "fra only" requests (@#1 DV) are not approved by us - we will be forced to stick to the rule:

"4.10. Host. The host should suit both players. If the players can not reach a compromise, the organizers of league reserve the right to choice of host."

#6
[SQK] ag3nt

Rule already exists.
4.10. Host. The host should suit both players. If the players can not reach a compromise, the organizers of league reserve the right to choice of host.

For my point of view the only problem is with ena = forcing to play on USA host versus KODOS. I was watching DX vs VIKI and it seems KODOS was okay on FRA, but ena was not and delayed 2x2 a lot.

Ping difference and lags are not the single thing to care about. Another place to look = maximum ping of every player on host. That should be minimized.

For example if we have two options:
100+150 vs 10+240 == perfectly balanced host for ena
120+170 vs 50+150 == unfair for ena
For me 2nd option is much more balanced and 1st should not even considered as an option, because one player cannot play at all (usually it is player from Asian part of exUSSR)

#5
[LG] Drunkenwanken

Hahaha, next pingwar inc. Please make rule for next season to prohibit those cases.
GO SQK!

#4
[uMaD] ena1337

@#3:

No I do not understand this.

This is how it works:

shadai - play on bot with lowest ping difference for both players
alex - play on bot with lowest ping difference for both players
agent - play on bot with lowest ping difference for both players
tgw - play on bot with lowest ping difference for both players
dv - play on bot with lowest ping difference for both players

I hope you do understand this.

Kind regards

ena

#3
DV

I understand this.
Also,

shadai - fra/qbc
alex - fra/qbc
agent - fra/japan
tgw - fra only
dv - fra only

I hope you understand this.

#2
[uMaD] ena1337

Hi DV,

that does not really help us, since we do not know on which map you seed which player. We will not change our planned lineup just to have a proper ping situation for you. We always have to find the bot with the lowest ping difference between both players.
Peruvian players will need to play on QBC2 (most likely), Korean players on LA1/QBC2/JPN, EU players on EU bot and NA players on QBC2/JPN.

I hope you do understand this.

Kind regards

ena

#1
DV

Hi friends

shadai - fra/qbc
alex - fra/qbc
agent - fra/japan
tgw - fra only
dv - fra only

thx

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