NWC3L - New WarCraft 3 League

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I think teams can't be ready for the first match of the season. That's why rule should gives during the 3 first clan wars oportunity for all clans to complete their team (add/kick players NW3CL). After that, if a team recruit a player ( = set a player who was not in the line up the first 3 weeks) and plays one match during the season, so the integrality of this match is lose by techlose 15-0. That count only for 1 match. Next weeks, team can set his player without penality.

2w peopnban will not resolve playoff-mercs issues
and such a long peonban can be bad for group stage

i vote for peonban 2 weeks next season
this is stupid that some ppl can play 2 different teams same season

This discussion is pretty weird.
For fair game I would not allow anyone to play playoff who played less than 2 CWs (including teh. wins) in season for the team.

Nick please add this rule for the next season.
This will easily resolve mercs issue.

Hi, I'm PeGaZ From Belgium. I'm The Only One Francophone Who Beats Grubby! But I Was During 1 Year Inactive...
I'm Searching A Clan For The Next Season! I Heard That Clan kLp Is Recruiting? But I'm Not Sure. Please Manager KaLiPsO Can You Take Contact With Me? Thank You Bro'!

Just throwing my hat into the ring...

Most of the RAGE players had been in RAGE a long time ago and they brought along their friends. I don't really see a problem with any of this. It isn't like they took players from another team that was actively competing for the sole purpose of eliminating competition. The only team that was effected was Dx with losing kamazzz and evanescence which was an unfortunate byproduct vs being intentional. It is a good thing that dx has some strong players (lets face it... nick is imba! did he even drop a solo series?) so they were able to get good results this season as well.

As for orcworker? His team was kicked and had issues in other leagues so he ended up joining the team where his countrymen joined that he was playing in nations with which seems logical to me.

As for FraB, their results aren't lucky at all. They put in a lot more effort on improving than most of the other teams in the league which showed this season. They had been improving since before they started playing in season 2 and I remember saying "these guys play well and have the right attitude so i won't be surprised if they make it to the playoffs next season"... which they did. I'm definitely happy for them and everyone else should be as well if they are a fan of wc3.

Also the excuse of "if team xxx seeded yyy / their best players" is just that... an excuse. There are times when your best players just can't play so as a team everyone has to deal with that and do their best. Speaking that way is pretty disrespectful to w3dk who are all fun players to deal with and try to play wc3 games as time permits. No one should be scared or worried about playing vs any player on any team. Just play and have some good games. That is what wc3 is all about. It is definitely an ideal that I push onto my team which is something that they pretty much live by. Everything else is irrelevant.

Ok Mr REGGG, I read.
Be polite please and just have fun! For example, KaLiPsO betrayed me, he didn't tell me the existence of a person but now we forget, the past is the past and I promise him sham :). Everyone should walk together in the same way, gl everyone for the playoff!

GG #TOP1FFA, faggot team managed by a bitch lmao, FraB has only mass luck in this league, this team total suxx, we re ranked 5th and we fucked them, where is the logic? this stupid team should be the last one. Same for the first team of Fra, they're total unskilled, I can't believe they re 1st of both group and that they have player in official cup. LMAO. Julien down soon.

Ok Mr SaTan, I read.

Why do you wrote 500 lines if you can admit and consider only your own opinion and your personnal affection about your teams, as the true answer?
I mean:
You developed all unnecessary things and you just try to pull me down (act kid/troll/ etc ..). And these 2 different things represent more than 90 % of your long answer about my second comment. So yeah, as you wrote : " well good joke... "
Everybody can write 500 lines but sometimes it's better to be quiet so nobody waste his time. Is that a better conclusion?
Peace)

mecro team... ppffff, satan, calm down, look yourself. i know all my guys more than 7 years, and we are join this league only for fun.. also 100$ in prizepool is mine, you know? i give my money not for players who can win this league(two any kor players), i pool in in PRIZES, and all have chance to win it....
So why it seems to you strange that I have called the friends to play for my team????
wc3 is dead, stop haver guys! All of us here behind positive emotions and nostalgia!

satan, you tried to throw out my team from playiff, giving forfeit to enemy?
i was think you are normal guy and fair team, but now I understand that was mistaken.

so much bla bla bla)
rudan was in RAGE long time before this league. and he is full inactive for now... strange that you are still afraid of him.
and about worker + dkh, where is DKH? not here. Where is any normal team, who can pay for players? not in wc3.... Worker merc? ok, try to buy him yourself.
He will back in DKH? lets see that in the next season. I dont rly care, but i think SNG player always better be in a SNG team? no?
By the way, it very not soon... Lets just play this games with maximum fun. Good Luck to our team, but TOD, Emalfan, Anima, Lawliet - that too much :D seems like all stars team, and that forbidden by rules.

Wtf, you sure you're ok?
Your first comment composed by some crap is enough, can't actually waste more my time to read/answer you, sorry dude.
Glhf anyway :)

Wow I,feel a lot of Madness on this post, if not, it's looks like I'll try to not consider that ,

also, As I'm saying i'm talking about a progression on 3 seasons which is noticiable regarding the overall cw results and classement .
Now if you want to talk about " and what would've happens if " it's without me, simply because in a cw and mostly on a league season there are surprises, penalty point, some players plays random , defwin and shits which can happens, and u never can know how would've turn the things " if " add to that a team might not have his best line-up every cws .
For this reason i'll not answer to the points 2 / 3 / 5.


1/ well last season it was posey who played both in wc3cl and nw3cl, and he became inactive since then, for now, noone have the lvl of the others 3. That's what I meant when i was talking about the player 4, the B barely have a good 4nd and philo's not yet at his level .

4/ Once again i'm talking about the perf on the whole season/progression i'm glade of them, and I can have my own view which u dont share , and I can say it even if you think its not deserved I dont rly care, it doesnt change what I think, your hate aint usefull here. .

6/ Worker will go back to DkH at the end of the season if dkh check-in or at least it was planed this way when he got recruited by rage , he left dkh because of their forfeit.
From CieN words he should back to dkh next season. So I dont see how u can compare that with syde ? syde just got promoted to our lineup A because he's good enough for it in my opinion , and that's how works our teams A/B , players can UP or down from a team or the other . Syde been the only one promoted this season , and this will stay has he deserved it .Last season for example noone got promoted, that just depend of our Staff intra-clan , and it had nothing to deal with the league.
I dont know how u can compare fraA/B which is a single same team , and rage/dkh who arent...
And you talk about bad faith ? well good joke..

7/ I dont know what he said on his Stream nore when , but he played the NWC with the France for the last playday vs PERU ~ 2-3weeks ago, so what you're talking about is wrong and that since at least 1 month .
Less than 3 days after the cw vs PERU he accepted to play for FRA for the nwc3l cws , that's also competitive .
It's "official" since 10 days ago when I talked to nick about it for a rules matter.
So its not similar with rudan case (unless if test recruit'd rudan since a while but didnt want'd to
use him vs Fs etc but that idk , anyway all what i said about rudan's " it's weird " nothing else . I'am more surprised by worker case actually.

I answer you this time, but i'll not enter in your game, all what you want's to troll or complain because your team didnt qualified or idk what shit reason ( actually idc your reason tbh ) and you use a fake account to do it, that's a kid act, so I respect you enough to answer you this time, but I'll not keep answering untill you stop to hide and to talks the way you do which is unpleasant.

Thanks to stop your behavior and to hate so much for free, this is not welcome here ...

The french bad faith isn't a myth?

1) We can notice that FraB had 3 solos who played all teams of the season (excecpt the 1st match). So you doesn't have a 4th player confirmed.

2) " their 1st place was seccured " : Before to start the last match, FraB had 39 points (SQK 44 points) so can you explain me please, how their 1st place was seccured?

3) " fraB would've been top 4 anyway " W3DK with Rosenkill and Ciara won 14-1 vs Ownu (who beats FraB). With Rosenkill and ThomasG, they won 12-3 vs Umad (who beats FraB). So if we suppose that FraB lost 14-1 / 13-2 / 12-3 / 11-4 / 10-5 vs W3DK, that is to say: FraB 32-36 points = 5th place of the group. Can you explain me please, how FraB would be top 4?

4) " scores 6 points vs DkH they clearly deserve to be in playoff " The 5th team beat the 1st team, so they also cleary deserve to be in playoff? This argument is crap and mean nothing. Furthermore FraB lost 6-9 vs DkH. One more time, if DkH not kicked, this sentence only confirm the opposite: FraB would be top 6 (or 5) of the group.

5) " they still beat sqk by a 10-5 " Yeah you right but if you check this match: SyDe, actually in team FRA (FraA ?), won his solo 2-0. If their 4th FraB solo called by SaTan " freepoint " (by the way, not really nice for your player) lost 2-0, the final result would be 8-7 for SQK.

6) " worker is a merco who just joined rage because dkh got kicked out " : But SyDe was also in FraB team. After he won 2 solo (by 2-0) vs SQK and W3DK, he appears in team FRA. This is also an unfair move as worker is a " merco " imo?

7) " rudan recruitement at the end of the season is also weird " And what about ToD recruitment? He sayed he was not interested to play competition/league (confirmed by his stream on twitch). So this is pretty more weird than rudan recruitment imo?

Same conclusion: We can confirm your argument if we consider the "luck" as the 1st cause who impact directly FraB on the 1st place of the group B.
Try again Mr SaTan ?

Well, fraB is clearly on progression if you Watch their results on 3 seasons , and calling it all luck is not true :
For their first season they finished last ( or at best 7nd on 8)
Second season they did top 4 and qualified for playoff
And this season they finished 1st , this is not a luck factor, but clearly a progression from fraB , the luck cant have a so big impact if the players perfs doesnt follow .
Concerning the results vs the team top 5 , keep in mind the two last playdays they used Philo aswell which is still returning from 6 years inactivity and is actually Under the level of the other players in the team B, so that's is a so called " freepoint " for now at least which has it importance , on the line up , and they probably seed him at the end because their 1st place was seccured.

Vs dkh, they lost 6-9 before dkh got kicked out, its rly not bad for a team B , many teams does worst against dkh nowaday.

As nesh said, the only luck which they had, was W3DK who understimated fraB, maybe they saw a team B and though that would be freewin ? but after all its w3dk fault, and fraB took the opportunities to make a 15-0 from W3DK mistake.
But beside that, they still beat sqk by a 10-5 , scores 6 points vs DkH they clearly deserve to be in playoff .
And when u say " if w3dk set their best line up " well, they used a lot of worst players vs other teams too, , they still used more noobs vs fraB than the other because of the understimated reason, but they didnt used their best line up everytime , they only did it vs ownu and it result'd in a 14-1 for w3dk , the rest of the time, in every of their cws they always had 1 or 2 worst players seeded . So yeah, fraB wouldnt had scored this result for sure, but the other teams wouldnt had scored so many point vs w3dk aswell , and fraB would've been top 4 anyway, their qualification is only a sign of progression for them, but the 1st place got reach'd because of this understimate factor from w3dk, and fraB took their opportunities to profit of this mistake .


@opop its playoffs so who know ? and worker is a merco who just joined rage because dkh got kicked out, that doesnt please me so much, ( rudan recruitement at the end of the season is also weird ) one thing's sure, we'll not let RAGE win the playoff this way, We'll not let a merco team win the playoff , so if we meet in final, we'll have to fight at equal weapons in my opinion, but that's far from where we're now so lets see what will happens !

Sure but:
If W3DK put their best lineup , it's not sure that you are in the first 4 teams.
We can also notice that DkH was kicked.
In addition, you have lost 3 of 4 solos vs the 5th team. A match where you should mb confirm your statu of leader in your group?
So your statement sounds a bit wrong, or we can confirm your argument if we consider the "luck" as the 1st cause who impact directly FraB on the 1st place lol? O_o
Anyway, gl for the next round! :D

Our luck was to beat a small line up of W3DK, for the rest we continue to achieve very encouraging results with players up and we prove that last season wasnt a surprise.

Gl all.

lol tt ...
I watched group B and ranking looks wrong about first 5 teams. But the real competition of top teams in this group starts now, in 1/4. That's why they will maybe creating many surprises for the group A. Results will be full of suspense!
And yeah we can not deny, this looks ez playoff for RAGE (if they play to win and put their best line up). But anyway congrats for FraB, they made a strong and serious (lucky?) season! gl for next everyone! Peace :)

you will use kor players? :D FAIR PLAY

Nah not easy, but they're clearly one of the favorites
dkh2.0

ez playoff for RAGE.